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18 Dec, 2008

Essbase Excel Client Install Files is 3Gb+, are you nuts?

Posted by: Daniel In: Hyperion Essbase

I love Oracle to death but on some things, it bugs me. I have been trying to get somewhere with Oracle for about a month, and the issue surrounds the installation of the Excel 2007 Essbase client (not the SmartView client though). Here’s the story…

For the past 12 years we have use Essbase on Excel, users are required to download the Essbase Client for Excel. The installation up to System 9 version 9.3 is normally around 50Mb or less. That’s a reasonable size for users to download and install.

However, with the new Oracle EPM 11.1.1 and 11.1.1.1 you’ll be surprised to know that you’ll now need to tell an average “Joe the Plumber” user that he/she needs to download 1.9Gb of zip files (5 of them) and then unzip it to his/her disk drive of 3.5Gb  !!!! And then…

The user will probably need an IT person to help to get through the installation (similar to a full installation of Oracle EPM onto a server but with less components selected to install). The process will take probably an hour. My first thought of this is “are you guys nuts?”. How can I explain to my users that by upgrading to EPM 11.1.1.1, in order to use the Excel client, they just went from a 50Mb to a 3.5Gb install? That’s a 7000% increase in size.

At first glance, from e-delivery you’ll think of downloading the Oracle Essbase Client Release 11.1.1.1.0 which is 280Mb. Cool, right? Wrong.

Essbase Client 11.1.1

In reality, in order for you to be able to install the Excel Essbase Client, you’ll need the EPM Installer 342Mb also. Now if you try to install the installer, along with the 280Mb you downloaded earlier, you’ll realize the common components are missing. Therefore, in order to get the installer fully working, you’ll now need to download the EPM Foundation Services Part 1, Part 2 and Part 3 for a total of 2,643Mb.

Essbase Client

Of course if you don’t like that, you can get away with the Essbase Client 9.3, an earlier version that would work fine on Excel 2003 but is a little buggy on Excel 2007. Not to mention you will not have full functionality of EPM 11.1.

OK and the response I hear several times from support was that there’s a lot of new feature in EPM 11.1 that warrants the giant installation. Another reason is Oracle’s strategy to have one common installer for the entire EPM. Now I think the unified installer is a good concept because we all remembered how tough it was in installing System 9. You need to have the right files and then installing them in certain order. The unified installer maks it much easier. However, in this particular scenario, my arguments are:

1. That’s probably true but I am not seeing a big list of benefits for the Essbase Client, and therefore the installation size should reflect that;

2. If you look at the SmartView client, it’s only 57Mb (see below). So it is possible to have a thinner client for SmartView so why not Excel as well?;

Excel SmartView Client

3. If it’s doable for the last 10+ years, surely it’s do-able for EPM 11.1, or am I missing something?

Anyway, I am hoping the Essbase development team would look at this issue and make reasonable adjustments. My suggestion would be to make the Essbase Client Release package to install any common components that’s needed. That way, the installation file size could be down to 622Mb (342Mb + 280Mb), that’s much smaller than 3Gb right?

As I have tried to remove folders that are not required for the Excel Client install, I was able to reduce it down to 2.6Gb. That’s still pretty huge but at least it’s 900Mb less. The interim solution is to zip and make our own distribution as oppose to asking for users to download 5 files, then unzip it to various locations, before the installation process.

Stay tuned, I am still trying to figure out a better way to handle this…

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11 Responses to "Essbase Excel Client Install Files is 3Gb+, are you nuts?"

1 | Bence

December 24th, 2008 at 3:05 am

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3 GB for the Excel client?! Terrific. Let us know if you find a better solution.

2 | Sam Toteve

December 30th, 2008 at 2:31 pm

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Daniel,How are you? You still at (edited out)? I think that’s (edited out) if I remember correctly. Anyways, good job on this. I work at (edited out) now and they are making installation improvements for the products. However this seems very cumbersome for the Excel client. How a company manages hundreds of users that may need it? I remember the old Excel add in was a issue when you had hundreds of users. Can’t imagine what this will be like :) Sam

3 | Daryl Reese

January 27th, 2009 at 8:40 am

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Hi Daniel,

Have you found a solution for the Essbase Excel Add-in for Essbase 11.1.1? I totally agree, I too have been using Essbase for the past 12 years and the server installation was simple along with the client install. Now, it takes a miracle just to install the Essbase server not to mention the client. I would like to know what the folks at Oracle are smoking – whatever it is we need take it away from them.

4 | Cecilia

June 12th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

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Hi Daniel!

Have you found a better way to download the essbase client installation files? Thank you!

5 | Dale

July 21st, 2009 at 9:10 am

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I installed the Essbase Excel Add-in v11.1.1.2 by downloading 3 files. The installer, the client, and only part 1 of the Foundations file. It still was still 3GB, but I put it on a server and installed from there, avoiding further downloads. I’m going to set up a silent install.

6 | Daniel

July 31st, 2009 at 5:04 am

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I have tried to get the install down to about 600Mb for the plugin only. It’s not the bestcase. I guess using smartview is the only option out there as it’s much smaller footprint.

7 | SRoux

August 3rd, 2009 at 10:49 pm

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Hi Daniel,

I had exactly the same reaction/feeling as you when I saw this non sense regarding client installer size.
I opened a case at Oracle Support, some months ago, and labs confirmed that they will make available an add-in installer similar to the SmartView one – hope to see it in the coming 11.1.1.3 release!

8 | Sam Toteve

August 19th, 2009 at 1:06 pm

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Daniel and All,

Thanks for this little blog etc… I had to revert to this and I work for Oracle. How do you think I feel?

Sam

9 | Daniel

August 19th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

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Hi Sam,

Long time no see. I was able to create a little package of about 700Mb instead of 3Gb to get the Excel add-in working. It’s smaller to install definitely. Of course, due to license agreements and all, I won’t be able to share it publicly. SmartView is probably the way to go but not all functions in the Excel addins are available. Fingers crossed…

Regards,
Daniel…

10 | Tonia Moore

February 8th, 2010 at 12:56 pm

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Hi Daniel,

My IT department is struggling with this one. Have you made any progress on the Excel Add-in installation issue?

11 | Daniel

March 3rd, 2010 at 1:38 pm

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Hi Tonia, use 9.3.1 add-in and it’ll work fine unless you absolutely need version 11 features. In that case, we maybe able to help offline.

Regards,
Daniel Poon

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  • Daniel: Ravi, yes there're a couple of properties needed for Essbase. If you are using v11 DRM, you should have the templates available already. Just check it
  • Daniel: Hi Tonia, use 9.3.1 add-in and it'll work fine unless you absolutely need version 11 features. In that case, we maybe able to help offline. Regards,
  • Daniel: There isn't any documentation as such from version 8. The DRM database structure is very different, you will have to rebuild it. Shouldn't be too hard

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